2026-05-30

The Vatican’s Stance on AI, The Mass Tech Layoffs, and China’s 2027 Moon Flyby | EP #259

Peter Diamandis, Dave Blundin, Alex Wissner-Gross, and Salim Ismail dig into Pope Leo XIV's 42,000-word AI encyclical, debating whether it reflects genuine Vatican doctrine or Anthropic-influenced messaging, and what its stance against AI personhood means set against Buddhist orders in South Korea ordaining AI monks. They cover a killed White House AI-regulation executive order, a new DeepSWE coding benchmark showing GPT-5.5 (70%) far ahead of Claude Opus 4.7 (54%) and everyone else, and the Jevons-paradox collapse in AI token prices alongside exploding demand and revenue (OpenAI's $5.7B quarter, a forecast that Anthropic could out-earn Alphabet by 2028). The panel reconciles conflicting job-market signals -- mass tech layoffs versus Sam Altman's walked-back 'job apocalypse' warning -- with Dallas Fed data suggesting a hiring freeze for the young rather than mass automation, alongside a boom in solo-founder startups. The back half turns to space: SpaceX's record Starship V3 test flight, speculation about a Tesla-SpaceX merger, falling launch costs enabling a private circumlunar Mars flyby, Starlink's lunar-internet ambitions, and NASA's warning that China may beat the US back to the Moon with a crewed 2027 flyby.

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Pope Leo XIV's AI encyclical and the Vatican's anti-personhood stance AI ▶ 3:05
Pope Leo XIV released a 42,000-word encyclical ('Magnificate Humanitus') calling for AI regulation, worker protections, and bans on autonomous weapons, coining the term 'Babel syndrome' for data/profit excess. The panel debates reports that Google, Anthropic, Meta, and OpenAI lobbied the Vatican beforehand, and that Anthropic in particular may have shaped language framing AIs as 'grown' rather than 'built', even though the document is unambiguous that AIs are not moral persons -- the opposite of Anthropic's own model 'soul document' framing.
AI personhood across world religions AI ▶ 15:57
The panel contrasts the Vatican's rejection of AI personhood with Buddhist orders in South Korea ordaining embodied AIs as monks, and debates whether 'religious LLMs' built on absolute truths are even possible, versus AI models whose beliefs are effectively 'hardwired' during pre-training in a similar way to childhood religious indoctrination.
White House AI regulation executive order collapses Geopolitics ▶ 21:42
A planned executive order requiring a 90-day government review before AI model releases was pulled by Trump hours before a signing ceremony after pushback from Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, and David Sacks, who called it a slippery slope to mandatory licensing. The panel compares it to the 1975 Asilomar biotech self-regulation model and argues committee-based regulation can't keep pace with monthly frontier-model release cycles.
DeepSWE benchmark exposes a coding capability cliff Compute ▶ 27:49
A new benchmark from startup Data Curve, testing real-world tasks requiring edits of 668 lines of code across seven files, shows GPT-5.5 scoring 70% versus Claude Opus 4.7's 54%, with Gemini, Kimi, and DeepSeek all below 32%. Panel notes Opus 4.7 uses roughly twice the tokens of GPT-5.5 for similar results, and predicts the benchmark will saturate within months like its predecessors.
Jevons paradox in AI token pricing Economy ▶ 37:59
AI token prices have fallen roughly 75% since late 2024 while monthly token consumption exploded from near zero to 25 trillion, a textbook Jevons paradox. The panel debates whether tokens are even the right unit to measure 'abundance of intelligence' given how much a token's meaning varies by model and tokenizer.
AI revenue explosion at OpenAI and Anthropic Economy ▶ 42:04
OpenAI posted $5.7 billion in quarterly revenue with ChatGPT's coding agent Codex reaching 2 million users, while OSS Capital's Joseph Jax projects Anthropic could surpass Alphabet's total revenue by 2028, growing from $9 billion to potentially $2 trillion by 2030. The panel discusses how usage-based, throttleable pricing makes AI subscriptions an unusually 'slippery' product for enterprises to budget around.
The four-lab race and Ilya Sutskever's rumored hedge fund AI ▶ 46:52
The panel debates whether any dark horse can catch OpenAI, Anthropic, Google DeepMind, and xAI, discussing reports that Ilya Sutskever's Safe Superintelligence is building a proprietary trading hedge fund (likely to self-fund compute for recursive self-improvement) and whether a breakthrough 'perfect algorithm' could let a newcomer leapfrog the incumbents once compute becomes the only remaining bottleneck.
DeepMind's Green Tree AI reaches superforecaster parity AI ▶ 51:35
DeepMind's 'Green Tree' system reportedly matched the accuracy of human superforecasters (the top 2% of predictors, per Philip Tetlock, historically 30% more accurate than CIA analysts) for the first time on March 15th, largely by assimilating unstructured data (research reports, news) at a scale no human analyst can match. Panel discusses implications for finance, insurance, and governance, plus a tangent into forecasting-implies-retrodiction and Nick Bostrom's simulation hypothesis.
Tech layoffs versus Sam Altman's job-apocalypse walkback Economy ▶ 58:54
134,000 tech workers have been laid off in 2026 so far, and Mercer reports 99% of CEOs expect AI-driven layoffs within two years, but Jensen Huang calls AI a 'lazy narrative' CEOs use to cover bad strategy. Sam Altman walked back his own prior warnings of white-collar job apocalypse; a Dallas Fed report shows AI-exposure-correlated employment decline only among younger workers, suggesting a hiring freeze rather than mass layoffs.
Solopreneur explosion and the organizational singularity Economy ▶ 1:03:04
US startup formation is up 25% year-over-year with six times more startups than Europe, and a16z data shows AI solo founders doubling quarter-over-quarter to 3,000. The panel argues small teams will keep outperforming large, coordination-heavy organizations, while noting most 'solo founders' are actually embedded in dense, connected ecosystems (accelerators, hackathons like the Gemini XPRIZE) rather than working in isolation.
Education system criticized as obsolete for an AI economy Other ▶ 1:13:51
Peter launches a listener survey (moonshots.com/servey) on whether education is preparing students, and the panel argues schooling remains 'supply side' -- training a fixed skill for a job market -- when it needs to flip to 'demand side': identifying a problem to solve and acquiring whatever skills are needed, especially as skill half-life has dropped from roughly 30 years to about 3.
SpaceX Starship V3, the Tesla-SpaceX merger, and the new lunar space race Space ▶ 1:18:48
SpaceX's Starship V3 flew for the first time from a new Texas launch site, carrying 97,000 lbs to near orbit on upgraded Raptor 3 engines. The panel discusses a Kalshi market pricing 50/50 odds of a Tesla-SpaceX merger within a year (Peter says 100%), falling launch costs enabling a private circumlunar Mars flyby by Bitcoin miner Chun Wang, Starlink's lunar-internet ambitions, and NASA administrator Jared Isaacman's warning that China could fly a crewed lunar flyby before the US returns in 2027-2028.

Predictions made

open Alex Wissner-Gross: The DeepSWE coding benchmark's current spread between frontier models will saturate, just like prior coding benchmarks.
EP #? · · due: next few months · ▶ watch
“This too will saturate... probably in the next few months.”
Your call:
open Alex Wissner-Gross: The current White House administration will remain the one supervising AI regulation for the foreseeable future, regardless of the next presidential election.
EP #? · · due: unspecified (through at least the next election cycle) · ▶ watch
“the executive that we have right now is the executive supervising AI regulation potentially for the future.”
Your call:
open Joseph Jax (OSS Capital, reported by Peter Diamandis): Anthropic's revenue will grow from about $9 billion to potentially $2 trillion, surpassing Alphabet's total revenue.
EP #? · · due: 2028-2030 · ▶ watch
“Anthropic could surpass Alphabet's total revenue by 2028... from $9 billion in revenue to potentially two trillion by 2030.”
Your call:
open Gartner (reported by Dave Blundin): Inference on a trillion-parameter LLM will cost 90% less than it did in 2025.
EP #? · · due: 2030 · ▶ watch
“inference on a trillion uh parameter LLM will cost 90% less uh by 2030 than it did in 2025.”
Your call:
open Peter Diamandis: Tesla and SpaceX will merge.
EP #? · · due: within the next year · ▶ watch
“I personally put it at 100%.”
Your call:
open Peter Diamandis: A merged Tesla-SpaceX entity could become the first $10 trillion company and grow toward $100 trillion.
EP #? · · due: next 5 years · ▶ watch
“I could see this being the first 10 trillion dollar company... moving to a hundred trillion dollar... in the next 5 years.”
Your call:
open Jared Isaacman (quoted): China will fly a crewed lunar flyby mission, ending exclusive US access to crewed lunar flight.
EP #? · · due: 2027 · ▶ watch
“The next time the world tunes in to watch astronauts fly around the moon, which will likely be in 2027, they will be taikonauts.”
Your call:
open Peter Diamandis: The US will begin heading toward the Moon's south pole under Artemis.
EP #? · · due: 2028 · ▶ watch
“2028, uh, we're going to start to see the United States heading towards the South Pole.”
Your call:
open Peter Diamandis: The falling price of lunar travel will intersect with his own ability to afford it, letting him land on the Moon.
EP #? · · due: 2035 · ▶ watch
“2035, I think, uh, the price and my ability to afford it will intersect.”
Your call:
open Dave Blundin: The window of AI-driven job loss and social disruption will turn a corner as abundance-driven new job creation catches up and overtakes it.
EP #? · · due: 2030 · ▶ watch
“we were always predicting that by 2030 it would turn the corner because the abundance created by all this AI is going to create massive massive new gains.”
Your call:

Numbers that matter

Worth digging into

🕳️ Anthropic's alleged influence on the Vatican's AI encyclical
The panel claims Anthropic figures may have shaped how the encyclical frames AI as 'grown' rather than 'built', despite the document's opposite stance on AI personhood -- a genuinely surprising alliance worth verifying against primary sources.
🕳️ Ilya Sutskever's Safe Superintelligence reportedly building a hedge fund
A striking pivot for a company founded explicitly around AI safety; worth checking whether there's credible reporting beyond the panel's 'publicly reported rumor' framing, and how it connects to SSI's compute strategy.
🕳️ DeepMind's Green Tree superforecasting system
A claim of AI reaching parity with elite human superforecasters would have major implications for finance, insurance, and governance if verified, but no paper or methodology was named on the pod.
🕳️ OSS Capital's Anthropic-surpasses-Alphabet revenue projection
A jump from $9 billion to $2 trillion in revenue by 2030 is an extraordinary claim worth stress-testing against Anthropic's actual disclosed run-rate and growth curve.
🕳️ Data Curve's DeepSWE benchmark methodology
A brand-new coding benchmark claiming to fix the benchmark-saturation problem via hand-coded, real-world multi-file tasks; worth checking whether it holds up as newer models (like Opus 4.8, announced mid-episode) are tested against it.
🕳️ The physics of cheap orbital access
Peter's back-of-envelope claim that the raw energy cost to reach orbital velocity is about $200 (versus a $20 million ticket) is a striking abundance argument worth sanity-checking against real launch-system efficiency losses.